TW: Radscum arguments
I’d really like to get involved with this whole “The word vagina is not bad” shit
But cis women, you do the same, you treat my anatomy like it’s vulgar. All the time. And I know you’re not recognizing that anti-abortion isn’t anti-vagina, it’s anti-woman. And I know you don’t think of me as a woman.
I’m having trouble being open about supporting you when you don’t even reciprocate, and when you do the same things to my body that anti-abortion legislators do to yoursHardly.
What actual legislation has been passed to make rules about your penises? Do you think we’d argue for, and vote for that legislation? Do we take bodily rights from you? No. Get over yourself. If you don’t care about the pro-vagina feels going around, fine. If you’re anti-vagina, or anti-choice- you’re a fucking misogynist.
The real kind, not the misandry you all label “transmisogyny.”
lolno you cissexist monster. I’d call you a fauxminist but no cos this is what feminism fucking is, a big ass cissexist, racist, classist ‘movement’ that ain’t moved since it fucking started.
You white cis women swear you are oh so fucking oppressed while stepping on everyone else and silencing their struggle. WON’T SOMEONE THINK OF MY PRECIOUS WHITE PUSSY?!?! No. Keep the white tears coming, my supply’s been running low anyway.
What actual legislation has been passed to make rules about your penises?
This is such a relevant question, smart-sauce. I can’t think of a damn one. But apparently by bringing up that fact, we’re oppressing people who don’t identify with their penis?? Cry me a fucking river.
OP said “I’m having trouble being open about supporting you when you don’t even reciprocate”… so your butthurt feelings are more important than the millions of the women who will be negatively affected by harsh abortion restrictions. Like, you’re so self involved you can’t get past your butthurt to be an ally to other women (notice i said “other” because i consider you a woman if that’s how you identify ok) ??
Side note: plz stop erasing WoC radfems ok. Like, they’ve made it clear they’re not fictional, they’re on tumblr and part of these discussions and erasing their existence to make your own opinions seem more inclusive is majorly not cool and like pretty oppressive.
You’re really fucking stupid
Cissexuals specifically prevent themselves from understanding that their gatekeeping requirements put the maintenance of stereotypes regarding transsexual women ahead of actually treating trans women like human beings, and that said requirements represent de facto legislating against our bodies. In most states we are never allowed to change our legal documentation to reflect our actual genders (which is actual, de jure legislation against our bodies) unless we have expensive surgery which most insurance companies deem “unnecessary” and “cosmetic” or demand that we “prove” medical necessity for based on not just the aforementioned stereotype-reinforcing standards of care but in most cases on outdated, more restrictive versions of those standards of care (most medical necessity clauses are based upon the HBIGDA SoC Version 5 or WPATH SoC Version 6 - the current version of the WPATH SoC is Version 7) - more de facto legislating against our bodies. Additionally, in most places, the legal rule of thumb for dealing with trans women’s bodies seems to be “your gender is considered to be whatever is the worst for you at this given moment.”
So cissexual women? Get on the fucking bus. Because the fact that you think trans women don’t know what it’s like to have our bodies restricted, controlled and legislated against just shows that you have not thought about trans women, at all.
If this wasn’t such a serious issue, and so personally important to me, I would be laughing hysterically at the ridiculous cis people who constantly feel the need to display exactly how little they know of the actual world.
Every single state in the United States has specific laws and regulations that deal with the ability of trans people to access identification documents that reflect our identities. Since you are so pathetically ignorant of the implications of this, you might want to investigate the fact that the United Nations has recognised by international treaty that all human beings are entitled to such documentation. Only one state in the Union allows trans people to modify their identity documents without the requirements of surgery, California, and this only happened within the past year. So, when you say that the world and society of which you are a part does not legislate against, or even concerning, our bodies, you should know that you are 100% incorrect, and you sound like an idiot for so vehemently insisting that trans people are not oppressed.
This, of course, merely scratches the surface of the extent to which cissexual/cisgender people insist on controlling our bodies. You think you’re so fucking progressive, because you think you’re a feminist, but all you really are is a selfish, self-centered, ignorant fool.
Side note: There is no such fucking thing as a radical feminist person of color, and I laugh at all you people who call yourselves “radical feminists” just because you think that means you’re “like, really, really, feminist”. Cluebat: “Radical Feminism” means something very specific in philosophical terms, and radical feminism is specifically and explicitly RACIST. It is nothing more than patriarchy dressed up in a skirt.
“Do you think we’d argue for, and vote for that legislation? Do we take bodily rights from you?”
The history of feminism is rife with explicit examples of cis feminists advocating for the elimination of trans women, specifically. The fact that you are apparently unaware of this is a further demonstration of your ignorance. You need to go back to school, little girl.
(via life-in-neon)
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